Ship Request - Alternative angle.

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steel915
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Ship Request - Alternative angle.

Post by steel915 »

Ive seen a number of interesting ships such as the escort duty mod that gives a different take on a custom ship - Do any accomplished/ambitious modders feel like having a crack at this one?

Try and design and build a ship that you see from a side view, or cross sectional? so a top 'tower' with the cockpit and sensors in, engines located in the rear and a frontal gun station?

Stuff that would need to be looked at would be the following:
Room graphics that translate a different angle in the room.
Obviously the ship sprite.
Weapon point location.
Ventilation.

And most importantly how the crew travel between the rooms (would it be invisible like the escort duty mod with a stair case graphic or just corridors etc.

Although i do have a design/graphics background im fairly busy with university work at the moment, If you fancy taking on the project with a bit of input from me let me know! :)
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Re: Ship Request - Alternative angle.

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You would have to redo all crew sprites to match side-on view.
Also systemless rooms can't have graphics, which means things like ladders are out of the question unless you very much limit yourself in the ship design to what connects to where.
You would also have to have only 2x1 rooms because 2x2 or 1x2 (vertical) is out of the question unless you want your crew floating mid-air.

Honestly the best way to do this is to go with a "ship has no gravity" concept and just have the crew animated to look like they're floating. That way vertical movement and positioning is a non-issue and you don't need ladders either. It's a lot of work though, for little reward besides novelty, which is probably why noone's done it yet.

That and the fact that you would have to rework ALL the enemy ships, because of shared crew sprites and stuff.
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Ora_unit_SR388
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Re: Ship Request - Alternative angle.

Post by Ora_unit_SR388 »

This will be hard but i will try this. :P

I was thinking, what if I could "shift" a side view of all of the races down allittle so they touched the floor.

I also could try making all of the hatches that went up have ladders.

The medbay could be a bunk bed room. I would just not script in the place were people can't stand.

don't know about the "climbing animation"
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Re: Ship Request - Alternative angle.

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you're still missing a some problems:

a) crew sprite images are much smaller than the room size, so you cannot shift it to 'touch the floor'

b) what happens when you have combat? is one person lying on top of the other, since it's vertical? is your rockman gently caressing that enemy mantis on the floor there? that's... that's um... let's not go there.

c) enemy ships are "nose-up" - this is an important consideration because of several reasons:
1. the enemy ship window is vertically oriented which limits what you can fit in there
2. enemy weapons all face and fire upwards, and they take fire from above
obviously this will cause issues with crew sprites because your orientation wouldn't work for both player and enemy ship

trust me, i've thought about this, and it's just completely impractical to do.
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This is not possible. A game designed for top-view action is not possible to have side views, it will be really horrendous. Just saying.. but u can try and waste time on it ;)
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Re: Ship Request - Alternative angle.

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speedoflight wrote:This is not possible. A game designed for top-view action is not possible to have side views, it will be really horrendous. Just saying.. but u can try and waste time on it ;)
I am going to try just for fun. It will be impractical, but why not?
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