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[Darkfyre]

There are modern roguelikes with tilesets to be less retro. And they aren't just about orcs and elves. In fact, there is a spaceship roguelike kind of like FTL and it's free. It's called Prospector RL. Or you could try Cataclym RL for a zombie survival roguelike.

Now, as for what a roguelike is, people usually get all hipster and are like "that isn't/is a roguelike!" but, in general roguelikes are

-Randomly generated
-Have some form of RPG elements
-Turn based
-Can have straight up ASCII or graphics packs, called "tilesets" that replace symbols with pictures.
-Feature perma-death
-Are very hard

A game that has some of these elements, but not all, is known as a roguelike-like. Minecraft, the binding of issac, and FTL are good examples of roguelikes-likes. The original roguelike was called "rogue" hence the title. Some big-names are

-Dwarf Fortress (Adventure mode is the true roguelike, fortress mode is more of like super-hard-sim-city)
-Prospector RL (Spaceships, similar to FTL)
-Liberal Crime Squad ( set in Modern times)
-Nethack (this is one of the originals back from 1980's, its a dungeon crawler)
-Rogue (of course)
-Crawl stone soup (Wizards and orcs again)
-Unreal world RPG (Set in 1700's finland)
-Rogue Survivor (Zombie survival)
-Cataclysm RL (Zombie survival- this one is 1000000000x more complex than Rogue Survivor, and has more than just zombies to haunt it)
and the list goes on and on... I'm sure I forgot some good ones too.

These aren't like Zelda because they don't have any "twitch" reflexes involved, per se. You pick your choices turn-by-turn, full of strategy and thoughtfullness. Due to the lack of graphics, you can have amazingly detailed combat and other stuff (like Cataclysm RL's open vehicle construction that lets you build a working vehicle in almost ANY configuration you can imagine). My absolute favorite would be Cataclysm RL, with Unreal World RPG at a close second. But they are all fantastic games, and they are all free except Unreal world which costs 3 dollars.

[SushaBrancaleone]

your very nice, but you are also not listening.
all these game seem to be very traditional in forms of RPG (maybe with some elements of RTS).

Just to be clear, im interested in mmorts, meaning games like ikariam, travian, etc, but as real games/programs and not as browser/flash games.

The reason for this post was to thank the devs for a new kind of genre mix, which I have rarely seen around and which i would like to see more of. I'm not looking to play braid or whichever independent version of mario or sonic the hedgehog, I like FTL, i think its new and wish there was more of it and its kind.

as for the retro graphics I think we all have our "fetishes". I in particular will always thrive for that final fantasy III magna look (and maybe should gief penny arcade a try..) and even if i do remember the graphics from my first console (the intellivision) I just dont care for it. I find narration by itslef does not well express the genre, I like videogames as a media cos it can be so much more than a book or bookgame (remember the 90's).

well thx for the chat
ciao