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as the title says my Paint puts the ship that I rotated in a white cube.how I solve that Shit?

Paint does not support transparency so images saved as .png in Paint will not be what you expect. You can still work in Paint if you're used to it, but to finish the job you need a tool like GIMP. There are other bitmap editors but GIMP is free and has plenty of users.

Load the image in GIMP, and save it as a 32-bit .png with transparency enabled. If Paint causes the image to become a white block, try saving as .bmp in Paint, then load in GIMP and re-save as a transparent .png

Delete all the crap/garbage around the ship and make a selection of the ship hull. Stuff outside this selection should be transparent once you hit save. You can also try using an effect like drop shadow. All vanilla ships have a soft shadow around them. This shadow may be what's tripping up Paint because it cannot handle it, so you get a "dirty" box or garbage around the ship.

Yeah I just avoid Paint altogether. Gimp will rotate any image with no problems and the image you save is otherwise the same as the one you started with.

Image->Transform->pick an option. Save and done.

UltraMantis wrote:Paint does not support transparency so images saved as .png in Paint will not be what you expect. You can still work in Paint if you're used to it, but to finish the job you need a tool like GIMP. There are other bitmap editors but GIMP is free and has plenty of users.

Load the image in GIMP, and save it as a 32-bit .png with transparency enabled. If Paint causes the image to become a white block, try saving as .bmp in Paint, then load in GIMP and re-save as a transparent .png

Delete all the crap/garbage around the ship and make a selection of the ship hull. Stuff outside this selection should be transparent once you hit save. You can also try using an effect like drop shadow. All vanilla ships have a soft shadow around them. This shadow may be what's tripping up Paint because it cannot handle it, so you get a "dirty" box or garbage around the ship.

Thanks man Paint is Garbage! [/Paint Is not for ftlb]

Blasphemy.

I painted all my shizz in Paint. Only used Corel to set transparency. Bans for you all!

Corel? Is it 1998 again and nobody told me?

UltraMantis wrote:Blasphemy.

I painted all my shizz in Paint. Only used Corel to set transparency. Bans for you all!

Corel as in Corel SketchPad? If so, could you please explain to me how does that work?

I'm having a ton of difficulty getting it to work without having to manually paint the transparency over every pixel, which takes ages if you don't want to accidentally kill the ship.

5thHorseman wrote:Corel? Is it 1998 again and nobody told me?

Touche

dalolorn wrote:Corel as in Corel SketchPad? If so, could you please explain to me how does that work?

I'm having a ton of difficulty getting it to work without having to manually paint the transparency over every pixel, which takes ages if you don't want to accidentally kill the ship.

Its a Corel Suite i stole from work many years ago. I learned CorelDraw and am pretty good at it, so i used it for almost anything that isnt completely bitmap editing. Now, Corel PhotoPaint... that abomination is the worst piece of crap ever made. It wouldn't even suck so much if it didnt try so badly to NOT be like Photoshop, but that just makes it more confusing to use. I only ever used it to create transparency masks because it was the only app i had for that.

Since it's outdated i dont know how much i can help. It was pretty confusing when trying to create transparency masks with feathering, but eventually i got it done. From what i remember the final procedure was to create masks with a selection tool, sometimes with freehand adding pixel by pixel. I then saved those selections as channels to have handy for later. There was an option to "grow" a selection with feathering enabled and this made it very easy to drop a bucket o paint through it onto another layer/object, and end up with a semitransparent soft glow. It was a bitch to perfect but i wanted console glows dammit.
Idk why you want transparency for the ship image though. If you need it there, delete all the garbage around the ship image, drop your own shadow if you want, then select the ship+shadow and create a transparency mask from that. I'm pretty sure you can set transparency with a mask/selection/whatever.

Copying existing masks (for room interiors) was a nightmare of confusion. If you can get away with it, i suggest you use FastStone to rotate and save as the existing images. That app will maintain proper transparency even when rotating the image which is something other apps have struggled with. If you paint custom consoles, try to keep them in the same locations so you can use existing glow images. If you have to make your own.... well, you can try to replicate my "grow" selection with feathering enabled in some way. The Marauders mod consoles turned out okay, though if you inspect them more closely, you will see what a hack-job that was.

In conclusion fuck PhotoPaint it's a bunch of crap. Draw is or was, and insanely powerfull design tool. Very fast and customisable, though i praise it mostly because i've used it for years and still know how to use it. All of my mod images are bunched together in .cdr files and i use it to make floorplans and align interiors and a bunch of other stuff.