Whining

[ShadowDragon8685]

What you said was

Cheating defeats the purpose of playing the game. The joy of finaly achieving victory. It realy made me feel happy to win it, a full-power, 100% Hell Yeah! of joy.

Don't get that when you cheat, so why bother? The only reward is compensation for all the harsh lessons and frustration. Without those...

But what you meant was

Stop having fun, guys!

Guess what? I don't care what "reward" you get out of a game. I find a game rewarding when it's a fair-to-stacked-in-my-favor challenge, not when it's an unfair-to-impossible stack against me.

So I even the odds. Maxim 31. Only cheaters prosper.

[Zaffre]

For the Federation Cruiser, the artillery beam, when fully upgraded, is a lifesaver. For instance, on my last run, the Artillery Beam destroyed the Rebel Flagship. I was out of missiles, and my ion bomb was down. If it weren't for the artillery beam, I would've lost.

[UltraMantis]

Stop having fun, guys!

Guess what? I don't care what "reward" you get out of a game. I find a game rewarding when it's a fair-to-stacked-in-my-favor challenge, not when it's an unfair-to-impossible stack against me.
So I even the odds. Maxim 31. Only cheaters prosper.

I certainly did not mean that. You have fun your way, i'll have it my way. I'm sorry if i came of a little preachy, but i meant every word. That's my fun, i'm entitled to it.

[ShadowDragon8685]

Stop having fun, guys!

Guess what? I don't care what "reward" you get out of a game. I find a game rewarding when it's a fair-to-stacked-in-my-favor challenge, not when it's an unfair-to-impossible stack against me.
So I even the odds. Maxim 31. Only cheaters prosper.

I certainly did not mean that. You have fun your way, i'll have it my way. I'm sorry if i came of a little preachy, but i meant every word. That's my fun, i'm entitled to it.

And when I break into your house and install a hidden program on your computer that forces FTL to give you 5,000 scrap and 250 fuel, missiles and drones at the start of the game, then you'll have something to complain about.

Until then, please don't preach when someone is complaining about this game's legendarily unfair and frequently ragequit-inducingly frustrating gameplay and I offer him an alternative to get what he's looking for out of a game he's already paid for.

[Matsumae]

I'm doing pretty good, right?

not really... You don't have any weapons that pierce shields, and you barely have enough lasers to get through 4 shields (assuming none miss...)

No to mention, what was your artillery skilled to? Should be fully upgraded by sector 7 (hell I always upgrade it to full before sector 3)

The thing fires every 20 seconds, ignores shields, and would likely shut off all this guys drones, and 2 of his weapons. would also shut down his helm letting all your lasers hit.


But you have a build here where you have, no drones, no weapons... where did all your scrap go? or you didn't properly scout your sectors to find enough shops.




Part of the game is also knowing when to retreat. I don't believe you when you say the FTL was only 50% 'and' your boarders died from asphyxiation. the ion bombs can't keep every system on your ship powered down permanently, half the time the AI will ion bomb empty rooms. If your helm/engine was down, then your artillery or your lasers should have been shooting. If those are down, then your FTL is charging.

If he did ion bomb you with perfect efficiency, chalk this one up to bad luck and try again

[Derakon]

It's been long enough now that I can't remember precisely what my build was or the events of the fight. He ion bombed my shields, which completely disabled them IIRC; at that point the two attack drones went to town on my other systems. The helm also got ion-bombed. My FTL charger was definitely at around 50% when I died though; I checked it when I was making the post.

Where did my scrap go? Into trying to run my systems. Level-3.5 shields (I was working on level 4), level-5 engines, level-6 weapons, plus teleporter/medbay/artillery, is 6+4+6+1 = 18 reactor points (+9 over base, costs ~270 scrap) plus 230 for shields, 85 for engines, 185 for weapons, 80 for the teleporter = 770 scrap before taking anything else into consideration. I had to pay IIRC 110 for the hull laser. Other upgrades I made were level-2 doors, level-2 sensors, level-2 pilot, and level-2 medbay (total cost 100). The medbay was there IIRC because I wanted to make a stab at unlocking the Mantis ship; the sensor upgrade is helpful for boarding since you can see what you're getting into; the pilot was mostly armor against losing my evasion bonus; the doors were probably not the best buy I've ever made but they were only 20 scrap.

Otherwise, the remaining scrap went into repairs and fuel. Unfortunately I don't know exactly how much scrap I obtained, but it was probably around 1200 by this point. I was just barely ahead of the Rebels in each sector, didn't spend much time backtracking, and I absolutely checked out every store I could.

The artillery beam was still at level 1; I was killing all non-drone enemies via boarding, and the drones via the burst laser / hull laser combination. Ignoring the arty beam in hindsight was possibly a mistake since it always pierces shields and has good DPS when upgraded; it just bugs me that I can't control the damned thing beyond deciding when it starts charging. I could have swapped the hull laser for the artillery beam and gotten better damage against drones for less money (160 to upgrade the arty beam vs. 270 to upgrade weapon systems + buy the laser) at the cost of having more trouble shutting down specific enemy systems due to being unable to target.

Remember that the only shield-piercing weapon I had a chance of obtaining was a Hermes missile launcher, which required the same energy budget as the hull laser (but was admittedly 60 scrap cheaper).

[Icehawk78]

Stop having fun, guys!

Guess what? I don't care what "reward" you get out of a game. I find a game rewarding when it's a fair-to-stacked-in-my-favor challenge, not when it's an unfair-to-impossible stack against me.
So I even the odds. Maxim 31. Only cheaters prosper.

That's lovely, except that nobody was talking about you. Just because you (apparently) don't enjoy games that are challenging doesn't mean that others don't.

And when I break into your house and install a hidden program on your computer that forces FTL to give you 5,000 scrap and 250 fuel, missiles and drones at the start of the game, then you'll have something to complain about.

Until then, please don't preach when someone is complaining about this game's legendarily unfair and frequently ragequit-inducingly frustrating gameplay and I offer him an alternative to get what he's looking for out of a game he's already paid for.

Hot tip, chief:

When you're bitching to people about preaching, don't be the one to start it in the first place. Nobody's telling you not to cheat, or even to stop telling people how to. But that's not what you're doing - you're just advertising your thread, which is kinda weird, and then getting hyper defensive because someone who isn't interested in your topic had the gall to say so.

The original responder was merely pointing out that "what [the OP] is looking for out of a game [they've] already paid for" is not necessarily (or, realistically, even likely) what you're "offering".

[ShadowDragon8685]

Stop having fun, guys!

Guess what? I don't care what "reward" you get out of a game. I find a game rewarding when it's a fair-to-stacked-in-my-favor challenge, not when it's an unfair-to-impossible stack against me.
So I even the odds. Maxim 31. Only cheaters prosper.

That's lovely, except that nobody was talking about you. Just because you (apparently) don't enjoy games that are challenging doesn't mean that others don't.

Uh, he was talking to me. Directly, actually. And there's a difference between "challenging" and "screwed by the RNG without any hope of victory or even survival." FTL is very, very often in that latter category.

And when I break into your house and install a hidden program on your computer that forces FTL to give you 5,000 scrap and 250 fuel, missiles and drones at the start of the game, then you'll have something to complain about.

Until then, please don't preach when someone is complaining about this game's legendarily unfair and frequently ragequit-inducingly frustrating gameplay and I offer him an alternative to get what he's looking for out of a game he's already paid for.

Hot tip, chief:

When you're bitching to people about preaching, don't be the one to start it in the first place. Nobody's telling you not to cheat, or even to stop telling people how to. But that's not what you're doing - you're just advertising your thread, which is kinda weird, and then getting hyper defensive because someone who isn't interested in your topic had the gall to say so.

The original responder was merely pointing out that "what [the OP] is looking for out of a game [they've] already paid for" is not necessarily (or, realistically, even likely) what you're "offering".

Hey there, big chief:

I didn't start the preaching. UltraMantis did. In fact, he specifically admitted that he did so, so why don't you climb down off the pulpit there.

I also posted a link to my thread - my guide to making FTL a little more fair (or as moustache-twirlingly unfair in your favor as you see fit,) as a possible solution to the OP's problem, which is that he never got a fair shake. Then some third party, whom I wasn't addressing, warps in here on a white starship and starts preaching to me about how I'm having fun with FTL wrong.

The original responder - UltraMantis - got preachy about how cheating isn't playing the same game, without even stopping to consider that maybe it's exactly what the OP wants, a way to forcibly give himself what he feels to be a fighting chance.

[UltraMantis]

Easy Shadow, nobody wants to twist your arm into playing a certain way, or playing "the way it's meant to be played" or other such nonsense. You're free to have fun, promote your opinion and give advice, but keep it civil when others come with opposite opinions.

[jamotide]

Wow, that is a mean encounter, I guess level 4 shields and 50% evasion are recommended in S7.