Previews from the impatient

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Re: Previews from the impatient

Postby Yizzzy » Fri Sep 25, 2015 3:26 am

MrRazerWolf wrote:Here someone made a tutorial viewtopic.php?f=12&t=28723

Thanks a bunch man, and thanks Whiteweasel for the tutorial.
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Re: Previews from the impatient

Postby MrRazerWolf » Fri Sep 25, 2015 3:39 am

Happy to help
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Re: Previews from the impatient

Postby NarnKar » Fri Sep 25, 2015 8:00 am

A thing to note is that Zoltan ships aren't really like...asymmetrical? I mean they kind of are. But a lot of them actually have 3-fold symmetry, or triangular; they have three main nacelles of the body, and one happens to be different from the other.

I've found this model here to be helpful for illustrating that point.

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Aside from that, the art looks pretty great so far. Can't wait to see the finished result!
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Re: Previews from the impatient

Postby R4V3-0N » Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:40 pm

NarnKar wrote:A thing to note is that Zoltan ships aren't really like...asymmetrical? I mean they kind of are. But a lot of them actually have 3-fold symmetry, or triangular; they have three main nacelles of the body, and one happens to be different from the other.

I've found this model here to be helpful for illustrating that point.

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Aside from that, the art looks pretty great so far. Can't wait to see the finished result!


This can be true but I could never look 'hard' enough to try to find the three-fold symmetry...

I also looked at the zoltan fighter and bomber and they are far from symmetrical...
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Re: Previews from the impatient

Postby SciGuy303 » Fri Sep 25, 2015 8:10 pm

Sorry if I keep on doing something wrong about my weapon sprites.
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Re: Previews from the impatient

Postby NarnKar » Fri Sep 25, 2015 10:39 pm

Those look good!
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Re: Previews from the impatient

Postby Gencool » Sat Sep 26, 2015 1:20 pm

Love the rotary idea- wp shots seems a little high though? Do they use missiles?

Also Zoltan fighters are symmetrical, but the symmetry is across Z [top to bottom] rather than Y [left to right] (as in, you're seeing one half of it, and it's a mirror image of the half facing away from you, almost like you're looking at it from the side rather than the top)
They're also slightly turned [maybe 10 degrees around Y], so you can see a bit of the other side (which would otherwise be obscured) and a bit of the ship's left-hand edge.

In fact the Cruiser follows the same rules, just rotated so the front is facing right like the other Cruisers and tilted the other way to match viewer perspective (it's not three way symmetry, sorry, and the more I think about it, that Lego kit's pretty far off)

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I had a go at this a while ago. It's no where near perfect but may be useful as further reference; viewtopic.php?f=12&t=24475&start=350#p94415
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Re: Previews from the impatient

Postby steamtex » Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:44 pm

Let's see, what have I missed while I was gone?

Oh, some missiles and great looking weapons.

Wait.

Wait a second.

How did I miss this? An entire Ion Cannon Satellite? I really should pay more attention.
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Re: Previews from the impatient

Postby Chrono Vortex » Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:49 pm

Where have you been!? It's been an ENTIRE MONTH!

steamtex wrote:Soon...

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Do you have any idea when your gonna be able to make this happen? We've been waiting for it for a while and the anticipation is killing me.
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Re: Previews from the impatient

Postby Gencool » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:47 pm

So, part of my actual work is translating 2D images into 3D objects - I figured I'd give it a go with The Adjudicator.
It's very rough and blocky, but it's pretty much how I see the ship in my mind's eye.

Feel free to disagree with me, but it may be helpful in designing more Zoltan ships.

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(from roughly the angle it's shown in-game, + re-scaled in-game image)








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Actually, the more I look at it, I think I underestimated the tilt of the ship...
It could well be that there's just one line of dots on the underside, and the two fins on top come out further.

That said, I'm probably reading more into it than is actually there. Obviously if I was making this for a client I'd edit it to match their own opinions, but as far as I'm concerned - according to the in game graphics; if there's symmetry, it's along Z, and not radial.
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