FTL Captain's Edition 1.308/Inf 1.301b/EL 1.308

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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.279/Inf 1.267/EL 1.275

Postby Shrooblord » Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:36 am

Sleeper Service wrote:Got you pull request now, but I not sure what is causing the problem there. One possibility is that special characters like
, ; -
when used in blueprints. I think I had a few problems related to those. If you want to play it safe I recommend checking which conventions vanilla tool-tips follow. If you don't use any characters that aren't used in the specific vanilla context then things should generally work.
Hm. I've been adapating inconsistent descriptions to match the style of others. I didn't "invent" any formatting myself; I chose what fitted best grammatically but was also used most throughout blueprints.xml. In general, that was the style
"Deals one damage; ignites fires; causes hull breach, which means oxygen drains."

But okay. I'll... go through the files and see if I can have my game not crash when I remove special characters...? I dunno. Weird.
I'll also do a round of CE-only testing. So far I've only been testing with Insurrection also installed. Don't know why I didn't think of deactivating that in my testings yet.

Have you tested the blueprints.xml yourself? Does it work on your end?
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.279/Inf 1.267/EL 1.275

Postby Sleeper Service » Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:14 am

I don't know, I can only speculate myself. , and ; appears in vanilla blueprint tooltips, but I've never seen a - and FTL is weird, so that might be part of the problem. If you are using third party mods that that doesn't make things clearer either. I recommend you try whether your modified CE version works on itself first. I haven't tested your files myself and I probably won't have the time today. I appreciate your effort though, your stuff looks thorough.
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.279/Inf 1.267/EL 1.275

Postby Shrooblord » Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:07 pm

I have:

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<droneBlueprint name="DE_BATTLE_3">
   <type>BATTLE</type>
   <tip>tip_crew</tip>
   <locked>1</locked>
   <title>Faulty A.P. Drone</title>
   <short>Anti-Pers.</short>
   <desc>Will seek out and attempt to destroy any intruders on-board your ship. Leaks power and therefore needs more energy from the ship's generator.</desc>
   <power>3</power>
   <cost>30</cost>
   <bp>3</bp>
   <rarity>4</rarity>
</droneBlueprint>


I think that's a CE drone, too.

Anyway, I'll try what you suggested and see if I can make it work by removing hyphenation.

Hmmm!! Tested using only the CE resource pack and the altered CE mod using my blueprints.xml and now it works. Curious. I will revert all changes I made to reflect the original edit I made in the first place and see if that works.
If it does, I'll try to figure out exactly where the conflict is.
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.279/Inf 1.267/EL 1.275

Postby Sleeper Service » Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:11 pm

Right, that should work then. Again I'm only speculating. Now I'd say that if you use other mods alongside then that is most likely what causes the problem.
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.279/Inf 1.267/EL 1.275

Postby Shrooblord » Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:17 pm

Sleeper Service wrote:Right, that should work then. Again I'm only speculating. Now I'd say that if you use other mods alongside then that is most likely what causes problem.
It may just be, indeed! (I edited my post above.)
Off to testing.
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.279/Inf 1.267/EL 1.275

Postby Shrooblord » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:23 am

Shrooblord wrote:Off to testing.
I'm running into a problem. The changes I make in the blueprints.xml.append are being overwritten. I've made the following changes to check if anything was happening in-game:

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<crewBlueprint name="mantis">
   <desc>The Mantis' disregard for individual lives led to their evolution as a vicious warrior race.</desc>
   <title>Mantiz</title>
   <short>Mantiz</short>
   <cost>55</cost> <!--was 45-->
   <bp>2</bp>
   <rarity>2</rarity>
   <powerList>
      <power>Inflict 1.5x DAMAGE in combat</power>
      <power>1.2x move speed</power>
      <power>Halved repair speed</power>
      (...) <!-- Etc. the rest is the same as default. -->


These changes didn't come through. Not in the Hangar, nor in-game. I picked the Gila Monster because it has some Mantis crew to start off with. I realise I'm editing an xml.APPEND and so maybe my changes aren't being used in favour of the code already written in the original game's blueprint.xml, but if that's the case, then why are those race entries even in the blueprints.xml.append for CE to begin with?

EDIT:
Changing ship loadouts also doesn't have any effect this way.
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.279/Inf 1.267/EL 1.275

Postby R4V3-0N » Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:07 am

Hey sleeper... not sure if this is intentional or not...

But most often you got an option to prevent any combat (may give you goodies) if you got the zoltan shield (aka represent zoltan ship) and about to be engaged by a zoltan ship-

however this also applies to rogue "ai zoltan" ships that already killed there previous owners rather they were rogue or got hacked by rebels. I find it funny that a bunch of heartless rogue ai's who killed there own 'masters' or 'creators' which was one of the most peaceful races in game would listen to you for a surrender zoltan style. I mean it seems a bit odd to me... especially the rebel hacked part- as you are the ship they want to kill but apparently the ai's (possibly controlled by rebel hackers) are able to be peaceful with you- and even give you supplies.

(Also I think for one of the talking with your human crew events I believe, probably the event that he wants to 'desert' to go help his family)

After checking the code itself- I found it. line 24,058 right after "captain." on that line.

"I'am" is incorrect as the whole point the ' exists was to shorten the word after it to make a contraction which would be "I'm", otherwise it should be removed and have a space for "I am".
This time I even checked the dictionary and thesaurus like a sensible person before reporting this because last time apparently I was wrong or I misunderstood the context >.>
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.279/Inf 1.267/EL 1.275

Postby Shrooblord » Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:55 am

Hi R4V3-0N, I'm currently in the process of reviewing all use of language and grammar. Thanks for helping out! I'll get to that sooner or later, given that I can sort this issue out I posted just before you did.
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.279/Inf 1.267/EL 1.275

Postby R4V3-0N » Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:09 pm

(warning, fleet of useless ships ahead)
made a few type B and C's, For engi and rock ships, made a new militia and mantis ship, and now grammar.

Never thought I would see the day that there is grammar and me in the same sentence without the word bad somewhere there. My English teacher would be so proud.

By the way sleeper, I've been doing some recolours on some projects I was working on and I am wondering if any of these could be of any use.
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Out of curiosity if any of these would be valuable or needed in CE. I kinda had them floating around in my mod files as well as this ol thing
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I remembered I was fixing the front of this ol fella but I never quite finished the 2nd or 3rd one as that was when I didn't have much time to work on it or anything and I did recall these "Slug fighters" was kinda wanted in CE after the fixes


The gibs of most of these are already done so maybe sometime this weekend If these are needed at all I can easily send them to you- I will be polishing up the slug fighters (note: is the type A in good/ better condition then before?)
I also noticed the lack of zoltan type C and Mantis type C, I think I can take a gander at them possibly. I would assume stations of those would also be appreciated? (Also the zoltan station type B kinda has a monotonous colour kinda going with it instead of having the 3 'greens' colour, would this require a fix up as well?), I do know you kinda do not want to do more with CE and are busy with other things however this 'help' is mainly out of curiosity- the zoltan type B fix for the station won't be much of a problem i would guess as it's simply put that in and take the other out. While the others would actually require work such as coding and such.
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.279/Inf 1.267/EL 1.275

Postby Sleeper Service » Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:02 pm

Uhm, right. First of all: Those look great! I'd definitely like to integrate the black/red pirate variants, especially those of the federation and Rebel enemies. I don't think pirates can have light artillery vessels, but the recolour still looks great. Integrating those won't be much work as long as you stick to the standard procedure of matching the original image size and positioning on the recolours. The Slug fighter A looks totally feasible now, but integrating it would need some more time and I'm not sure whether the Slug really need four hull types. Integrating that hull would basically just mean remaking some existing layouts with a new hull, so that wouldn't add so much to the game anyway.

R4V3-0N wrote:I also noticed the lack of zoltan type C and Mantis type C, I think I can take a gander at them possibly. I would assume stations of those would also be appreciated? (Also the zoltan station type B kinda has a monotonous colour kinda going with it instead of having the 3 'greens' colour, would this require a fix up as well?)
Yeah, those variants and improvements would definitely be appreciated, as long is integrating them remains straight forward, meaning that they fit the original image size and positioning.

R4V3-0N wrote:But most often you got an option to prevent any combat (may give you goodies) if you got the zoltan shield (aka represent zoltan ship) and about to be engaged by a zoltan ship-

however this also applies to rogue "ai zoltan" ships that already killed there previous owners rather they were rogue or got hacked by rebels. I find it funny that a bunch of heartless rogue ai's who killed there own 'masters' or 'creators' which was one of the most peaceful races in game would listen to you for a surrender zoltan style. I mean it seems a bit odd to me... especially the rebel hacked part- as you are the ship they want to kill but apparently the ai's (possibly controlled by rebel hackers) are able to be peaceful with you- and even give you supplies.
Right, I tried to paint the sector as ambiguous about what the exact stance of the individual AI is, but I guess you are right to the extend that they are painted mostly as malicious. I wanted to imply that they can actually be reasoned with, but maybe that options are still off. Might get removed in the next update.

Shrooblord wrote:These changes didn't come through. Not in the Hangar, nor in-game. I picked the Gila Monster because it has some Mantis crew to start off with. I realise I'm editing an xml.APPEND and so maybe my changes aren't being used in favour of the code already written in the original game's blueprint.xml, but if that's the case, then why are those race entries even in the blueprints.xml.append for CE to begin with?
Chances are that some other mod is overwriting your changes. Potentially a mod that is loaded after this one. Append files are files that are added to existing files, non appends completely overwrite existing files which is not very useful. Didn't you mention that the mod worked on itself? So there seems to be no problem with your changes after all. I'll see about integrating them. On a more general note I'd advice against changing anything in vanilla events or item descriptions, as some users will perceive this as needless tangling with the files.

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