FTL Captain's Edition 1.308/Inf 1.301b/EL 1.308

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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.105 / CE Infinite 1.005

Postby Sleeper Service » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:28 am

Thats all hard to say right now. I guess the new layouts ships will be equipped with CEs AE content at some point (with the CE vanilla ship addon updated as well of course, to let the user decide which loadout to use). The Kestrel C and the Fed Cruiser C will most likely get the new Requisition License aug, would seem fitting. Some new enemy ships and stations might get these paint jobs at some point.
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.105 / CE Infinite 1.005

Postby Mr. Mister » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:59 pm

The Zoltan C's paintjob looks more fitting for the AI Overrun sector ships though, don't you think?

Slug C, with that yellow, looks like a highway mechanic/emergency vehicle. You ain't gonna hide very well with that colour.

Mantis C's digital camo totally suggests digital warfare.

Fed B... I'm not sure. It looks more outlaw-ish than pirate-ish.
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.105 / CE Infinite 1.005

Postby The Captain » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:08 pm

With more stuff in stores, I'm going to have to save up more scrap than I usually do.

I wonder if BP&B will still work with AE.

Mr. Mister wrote:Slug C, with that yellow, looks like a highway mechanic/emergency vehicle. You ain't gonna hide very well with that colour.

Space is vast. Even if a ship were reflective silver, it'd still be hard to spot visually. Other sensors would pick it up sooner.

Couple spelling/usage things:

'The Engi ... has drawn up some concepts for a "battery systems*" .... - system

"A Rebel drone, completely frozen, drifts near this beacon. ... should be hardly effected* by the low radiation levels and temperatures..." - hardly be affected
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.105 / CE Infinite 1.005

Postby Russian Rockman » Sat Mar 22, 2014 4:52 pm

I guess you're right, ammo and drone manufacturer can stay. :)

LOL, it's a slug Taxi!!!

I think separating the CE: AE weapons from the other weapons is a good idea. I hope you can also make some very unique new weapons using the new mechanics.
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.105 / CE Infinite 1.005

Postby Russian Rockman » Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:46 am

Hey, since there are one weapons that stun your crew, if they don't have hazards that stun your crew already you could create a dummy weapon for a hazard that randomly stuns your crew. That would be a frustrating one. Also, since they have the weapons that "warm up" after a certain time you could have hazards that get perpetually worse the longer you stay in them. Any other ideas?
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.105 / CE Infinite 1.005

Postby Sleeper Service » Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:38 pm

Hazards that are based on dummy weapons are very limited by the fact that you can damage the enemy weapon system. "Warm up" hazards and continues bombardments are not really possible this way. But the new things possible with weapons definitely seems pretty cool. I already made concepts for an Adaptive Beam that analyses the enemy defenses and gains damage with each shot. There will also be Light Flashbang Drones that stun your crew, they should be annoying enough. :P
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.105 / CE Infinite 1.005

Postby Russian Rockman » Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:10 pm

Oh yeah, I forgot. It's really annoying that you can't have the dummy weapons also affect the enemy ship. :( Perhaps though you could have a husk and boarding event during a hazard like this. That would be super annoying, but then the hazard would affect enemies as well. I've always thought about what would happen if your ship lost artificial gravity or inertial dampeners. Maybe this could be some sort of hazard that does that. Maybe then this could also explain why the enemy's ship is fine(?) in a situation different than a boarding one?

Also, I've always liked the idea of the ion beam, but so far is hasn't been possible. It may be that the ion stunner type weapons will allow such a beam in AE. Right now though something that is possible is a beam that does extra system damage. I think that would work similarly to an ion beam because it would disable ships. Maybe it could even do no hull damage. Sounds like something perfect for a Zoltan ship and then you could keep the name "Baton Beam".

EDIT: More realizations about the AE regarding the Clone Bay:
  • Hacking someone's Clone Bay will really screw them over, not being able to heal their crew and all.
  • Also, this kind of situation will make healing bombs MUCH more useful than they already are because a Clone Bay ship would actually be able to heal its crew. Imagine Slug B with Clone Bay!
  • How will Engi Med-Bot Dispersal work? That sounds like an amazing combo with the Clone Bay.
  • When facing an enemy ship with a Clone Bay drawn out Clone vs Clone battles will be possible. Probably the center bring the actual clone Bay in an attempt to deactivate the opponent's. (I see now why the upgrades could be useful)
  • Enemy ships with a Clone Bay may further nerf normal boarding pretty well. But the AE (especially in conjunction with CE) will offer and encourage killing crew in alternative ways, which sounds great.
  • A genuine "only boarding" ship is actually possible now because you can actually suicide your crew!!! All you need is a way to get through their Zoltan Shield. Where's our Mantis teleporting tech augment for that?
  • I wonder if it would be at all possible to even put a Clone Bay and Medbay together on a custom player ship?
  • OMG! I totally see a practical use for the Red Shirt skin in CEPM! I want to Clone an army of Red Shirts but keep my normal crew alive! :lol:

:roll: :idea: One last thing about something I would personally like. Perhaps you could rename the Clone Bay and/or change its description a little bit to something indicating that it is an advanced Medbay which uses partial cloning to rebuild and revive your crew even in recent death. Let's assume you teleport their corpse back to your ship. The system is designed specifically for this so it only has a limited ability to actively heal your crew normally. But partial cloning still allows you to heal a bit each jump.

Then you could keep the Clone Lab augment and use it to create whole new crew members, but maybe give it a slight chance of failure. The failure being one of your crew thinks it is a crime against nature to use your Clone Bay to create an entire living organism and mutinies.

I'm not saying that you need to do all that just to keep the Clone Bay augment. That's just how I will be picturing the Clone Bay functionality personally.

EDIT: RANDOM QUESTION TIME!!!! Why are the mantis ships named after reptiles? They're not reptiles, they're insects. And how do they even know what a Gila Monster is anyway? (Ahh maybe it is the Federations fault for renaming the ship that).
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.105 / CE Infinite 1.005

Postby Russian Rockman » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:07 am

Hey Sleeper, maybe something you could work on is changing the colors of the Effectors and their UI warnings to Purple instead of Blue. I know that the Effectors are different from the Hacking system and I think they should definitely be kept in CE:AE, but thy are more hacking than ion so J think they should probably get some purple to reflect that and just to add a bit more variety.
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.105 / CE Infinite 1.005

Postby Sleeper Service » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:11 am

Yeah, that could be done. They would also be more visible that way...
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.105 / CE Infinite 1.005

Postby Mr. Mister » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:58 am

I'm not so sure... I mean, they're ion weapons after all.

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