FTL Captain's Edition 1.308/Inf 1.301b/EL 1.308

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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.098

Postby Mr. Mister » Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:19 pm

Can confirm the shopping just as the fight starts, though I thought it was just hardcoding striking again. Basically, it's "We're not gonna let you shop and will kill you instead!" -> store window automatically opens with game paused -> you close the store window when you feel like it after doing whatever -> Now you're fighting and obviosuly can't manage the ship nor the store windows -> you win -> store window becomes avaliable again

I'm pretty sure on-board is correct.


Also, regarding that Rockman conversation: Rockmen feel pain, so maybe you should replace ""pain"" with ""ardent"" or so.

EDIT: Nanocloud has been find whenever I've visited. You simply do NOT jump into AI Overrun unless you're prepared for it.
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.098

Postby CaptRavo » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:16 am

haha, a lot of feedback from my pic. In the picture I posted, I couldn't find any stores in the last 8 jumps or so. I kept getting tons of events that gave me more crew though (as shown in the pic). I got tons of random weapons too, so the game was being very generous... or so I thought. "Foooooled you!" - Dark Helmet

For the record, I am really enjoying this mod, if anything for the massive variety it has. I've memorized all the events in vanilla FTL, so it's not as fun. I'm still discovering new events in CE! The variety is fantastic and I applaud all the work you've done on this.

CE is definitely a lot harder than vanilla FTL though. Notice I said harder, and necessarily challenging. It's harder because you're dealing with a lot more random variables that could result in your death. You have no control over these. It's just a roll of the dice. Often times it's impossible to plan for them. You just need to wait and see what hand you are dealt.

One thing that surprises me is the overuse of quarantine sectors. Sometimes I'll cross 4 per game. The map labels them as green, but they are anything but friendly - in fact they are often worse then rebel controlled sectors. Sometimes the label is a bit ambiguous and you don't even know it's a quarantine sector until you arrive there. I've pretty much learned to avoid all distress beacons in these sectors, because it seems 3 times out of 4 the result will be lost crew members and boarding. Is the universe so diseased and desperate? I'd be nice to encounter some more events that reward you for your goodwill, or maybe some sectors that don't quite have a epidemic yet where everyone wants to murder you.

Anyway, these are minor rants. It's still an enjoyable mod, even if it abuses me for an hour straight ;)
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.098

Postby CaptRavo » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:18 am

PS - I've only been playing CE on "Easy". LOL. Too bad easy only has to do with resources modifiers, right?
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.098

Postby Mr. Mister » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:27 am

The green/red only takes in account the hostile ship encounters' frequency, and quarentine sectors are the most calm ones besides coreworlds. Plus, those pussies who think it's better to always go for green might be in for a surprise.

I don't think you can control a sector's frequency apart from maquing it unique. You may have been given a sick galaxy, but that's just why there is a rebellion.

And all the quarantine events can end well without trouble.
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.098

Postby Estel » Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:07 am

Sleeper Service wrote:Alright, nebula mass reduction is scheduled.


Are you sure it's a good idea? I have been to AI sector half a dozen times, and I never encountered too much nanoclouds. It feel absolutely right, IMO - even original reporter suspected, that this might have been his bad luck on sector layout.

BTW - I think that new hazards are *awesome*. The "placeholder" station in radiated zone was one of the biggest surprises in FTL I had in ages (alongside goodies in AI overrun sector), and I absolutely, completely *love* how those things force me to consider doing different ship upgrades, than I was used to. IMO, it feel very balanced, and, for once, I'm, sometimes, buying medbay lvl3, life support level lvl3, etc - IIRC, I *never* did it before, unless in sector 8 when I was having excess scrap and nothing to spend it on (it was long ago, before CE added so much cool stuff to buy/produce/obtain ;) ). Heck, last game, after one Slug ship disabled few bars of my max upgraded engines *and* 1 bar of cockpit - which was my only one bar, so it rendered *whole* engines useless - I started upgrading helm. And that speaks something, as it was most useless thing to spend scrap on, before.

Speaking of which - AI overrun sector is indeed absolute pinnacle in terms of climax and being flavor-heavy. I had a run through it, that felt like whole campaign on it's own. I ventured into nanoclouds - first it was only hazard, without any enemies. Then, on next jump, AI ship controlling nanobots popped in, with event text stating that "nanocloud might track my exact position between every jump". Wow, it felt like being connected with me venturing deeper into nanocloud, even though I know it isn't possible by engine. Then, on next jump, AI decided to surround my ship with with makeshift teleporting devices, announcing way via my own intercom "We're coming" (event text series during this one is one of the best in whole game, IMO, I literally felt those lights going out and fighting deadly holograms appearing from out of nowhere with ifra-red vision goggles on. Heck yeah, System Shock!). By kindness of RG, on the very *last* nebulae'ized beacon, AI announced in Shodan'esque, that "it was amusing to watch me going through their sector, but I've gone far enough", and decided to shot makeshift artillery. After getting rid of AI spotter, I got text that we're leaving, not wanting to see what AI decide to throw on us now - just when I was indeed leaving nanoclouds! It was awesome.

BTW, meeting hippies AIs smoking weed and relaxing was another favorite WTF moment. Sleeper will know what even I have in mind. It was great break from the "so serious" tension. Which reminds me - I've meet some rebels in AI sector, too, thinking "how the hell they have survived AIs". It doesn't feel off - after all, they could be lucky or tough enough - but, it might be good idea to create some events, where we meet rebels actually harassed by AI, or result of those (just like we see AI eating away Zoltan ship - it would be cool to meet rebel cruiser or even squadron of those, decimated by AI, which equal probability to fight one of cruisers or one of AI ships, depending on luck or equipment we have - it could affect which party notices us).
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Now, as promised, huge bug jar - bon appetite. Order is as I encountered and written it, so serious things will be mixed with minor or bug-or-feature? ones.

Tested version: 1.096b

1. Vanilla event, where we meet station "hit hard by the war" and in need of drones (where we can sell them) can't be attacked pirate way. It also could contain a nice placeholder neutral station ;). (Severity: Minor).

2. The "legendary" quest, where we're hired to check delivery convoy that is weeks late - one of the possible outcomes, is to see pirate attacking crippled convoy. If we defeat pirate, we get scrap from it, and even text state, that convoy give us reward, too - although, no 2nd reward is given. Unless higher reward is already implemented to pirate's "corpse"? (Severity: Medium).

3. I have been through dozens of "boarded without enemy ship" events, and none of them gave me any reward. Maybe I've messed something, and it wasn't implemented yet? Anyway, here is list of some of them (stopped noting, when I got the feeling that it doesn't work at all): (Severity: Medium or "Feature not implemented yet")

a) Mantises invading us during "your world suddenly changed" and "derelict mantis ship encountered" events.
b) Sensors jammed as "part of boarding operation"

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I've actually run into situation, where reward for defeating boarders *worked*:
http://s30.postimg.org/shgqizlj4/teleport.jpg

...so I assume that this report is valid, after all.

4. Dual laser II is actually a *downgrade* from dual laser I. Unless description lies. (Severity: Medium)

5. The event, when "young mantis in charred uniform" teleport to us, seeking asylum - having slug on board *doesn't* allow to check his mind and determine intentions. (Severity: Medium)

6. The Fed sector quest (obtained when playing Fed cruiser or having long-range scanners and choosing to help them), after beating rebel cruiser and seeing rebels on the run - reward is more likely "standard" for defeating a single ship on a given sector number. It could get boosted, as this lead cruiser really got some punch. Same for 2nd part of the quest, when we arrive on abandoned battlefield, and fight lone (yet quite powerful) cruiser - after defeating it, event text state, that we're "gathering remains of many ships". I know that there must be some balance, but reward feels like standard one for defeating a single ship, again - it's quite anti-climatix, reward could get boosted, even if only for not being so immersion-breaking ;) (Severity: Feature enhancement)

7. Vanilla event when someone want to trade drones for fuel - we can't pirate him, also no placeholder neutral ship (trader appear and can be pirated in other events, so it could get fixed for consistency). (Severity: Minor)

8. Inside industrial sector, there was a beacon when event text explicitly stated, that particle density clogged my engines *and* sensor. Neither one was affected. Maybe it's intended, as none was upgrade very high at this time. (Severity: Medium or "It's a feature")

9. You may want to check stats of "Big bomb" vs "breach bomb" (lowest tier one) - Big Bomb is breach bomb clone, except that it's much worse. I know some things are just better than others, but big bomb is tier 2 and more expensive - it's shame that it's so useless, now. I thing that it could have more distinct characteristic, than being a weaker sister of weakest breach bomb, "Big bomb" name means something ;) (Severity: Feature enhancement)

10. Zoltan's sectors appear as red (hostile) in sector's map. (Severity: Minor?)

11. Heavy Ion Drone - I know, I was the one that reported it being severely OP for the first time (and indeed, it was). But, currently, the drone is nerfed too much. High power requirement is OK, but the drone's speed is a joke - it's clearly the slowest drone in galaxy. I've hit situations, where I spent whole lvl3 cloak *and* got shot 5 times by hull ripper II drone, before damn Heavy Ion made *first* shot! Most of the time, it seemed that it's not going to shot during this millennium. I know, that it's low speed is intended as way to prevent Ion chaining (and making it OP again), so I have 2 ideas how to fix it:

a) Less favorable (IMO) - boosting it speed a little, to make it that generally doesn't chain, but can do sometimes, if randomization between shots get very favorable for us. Could be hard to tweak it, one would need to hind a sweet spot, where it it "just" at the edge of chaining.

b) My favorite idea - it is Heavy Ion, after all. We have Heavy Ion weapon, that suffered from the same problem, and got property of doing 1 system damage on hits, as addition to Ion damage. So, why Heavy Ion Drone couldn't get the same? It could retain it's pathetic speed - at least, now it would be worth waiting for.
(Severity: Feature enhancement)

12. One of the guns of this Corvette is "floating" in space: (Severity: Minor'ish minor)
http://s9.postimg.org/einl0vwkt/gibs.jpg

13. There is lacking "Zoltan'ish negotiations boost" for pirate event in nebula:
http://s30.postimg.org/3v9wxbgsf/zoltan_negotiation2.jpg

14. Negotiating here seems off. The same problem is valid for all AI ships, including every one in AI Overrun sector:
http://s29.postimg.org/lt05hm379/negotiating_ai.jpg

15. Zoltans negotiating higher surrender still feels quite UP:
http://postimg.org/image/tv3jqv4x5/

Leaving the augment aside (it's RG thing), even the bare scrap is 50% worse than "white" option. Maybe its just RG thing too (generated best possible outcome for white and worst possible for blue, for example) - it's a pity, that the same RG result can't be applied to both white and blue option (so, it would be low for both, but still better for blue, or superb for both, yet even more superb for blue). (Severity: Medium or Wontfix)

16. Not necessary a bug report, and I'm not even entirely sure, if it should be fixed, but...
http://s23.postimg.org/x8k7crzru/r_drone_carrier.jpg

... this ship seems quite too powerful for sector 2 (notice it's drones *and* weapons). Still, I managed to win this (with 1 hull point), and I don't have anything against meeting opponent that I have to RUN! from, once in a while. So, as said, I'm not even sure if I want to see this one nerfed or not :D Maybe it could get limited, somehow, to have only support laser weapons, without powerful focus Beam (the smaller one would still fit) or heavy rocket artilleries? After all, he should be focused on drones, yep? Now it seems that it's sole weapon loadout could serve as armament on it's own. (Severity: Fix or not to fix?)

Cheers,
/Estel

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Sleeper Service, what is your view on CE's player ships loadout, after latest change? Do you think that it is core part of CE, and is balanced enough to be considered a "canon" part of the experience, with vanilla loadout being "off" and possibly unbalancing? Or, like with earlier releases, modified player's ship loadouts are a spin-off that can be unbalancing, and vanilla loadouts are the "preferred" thing for balance purposes?
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.098

Postby Sleeper Service » Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:52 am

Estel wrote:Sleeper Service, what is your view on CE's player ships loadout, after latest change? Do you think that it is core part of CE, and is balanced enough to be considered a "canon" part of the experience, with vanilla loadout being "off" and possibly unbalancing? Or, like with earlier releases, modified player's ship loadouts are a spin-off that can be unbalancing, and vanilla loadouts are the "preferred" thing for balance purposes?


CE player ship loadouts are still more a showcase and definitely not CE cannon. Integrating the addon happened for my own and also your convenience. I don't have to make a new version of the addon each time I make changes to the player ship loadouts this way. The players don't have to download a new version of the addon each time as well. If you want to play without CEs player ship loadout, you just have to download the new CE vanilla loadout addon one time and can use it with any future version of CE.
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.098

Postby spudcosmic » Sat Feb 08, 2014 1:30 pm

Is it intentional that occasionally zoltan surrenders sometimes cost resources? For example I just had a slaver surrender that costed three fuel, and another time the surrender was going to take away 6 drone parts! This seems too much like a bug to me.
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.098

Postby Kartoffelr » Sat Feb 08, 2014 1:42 pm

The crystal weapons descriptions could use a little clean-up, the tooltip sometimes provides more or other information then the complete weapon info. Fire chance for the Heavy Crystal I is only mentioned in the tooltip, for example.
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.098

Postby Sleeper Service » Sat Feb 08, 2014 1:53 pm

spudcosmic wrote:Is it intentional that occasionally zoltan surrenders sometimes cost resources? For example I just had a slaver surrender that costed three fuel, and another time the surrender was going to take away 6 drone parts! This seems too much like a bug to me.


These are designed to have tradeoffs sometimes, resulting from the negotiations. Is still being adjusted.
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Re: FTL Captain's Edition 1.098

Postby Kartoffelr » Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:09 pm

I have to say, i find the outcomes of the "abandoned vessel" a bit stupid. How exactly does a suicide shuttle that hits my ship does not only damage my hull but kills a crew member? That is pretty improbable.

edit:
The Crystal Vengeance augment says it causes a lockdown when the shard hits the enemy. But it does not.

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